Gun Ownership

On one of my many sleepless nights, I came across a piece on Craigslist in San Francisco on gun ownership on January 2, 2008.  I won't say if I own a gun because I live in California, a state where a gun seems to be something to be feared and banned rather than just a tool to be understood and educated on. I'm posting the list below because, well, it's my website and I'll post what I damn well please. More importantly, however, is the idea that I -- as a student, an engineer, and a lawyer -- am a believer in the truth. Regardless of whether that truth is something I foresaw or agree with. I figured the post below brings up several good points and deserved some permanence.

I would love to give credit to the author of this list, but can't because Craigslist is anonymous. 

If you read all 171 statements, logic reveals two things about the rationality of more gun control as a solution to crime.

  1. Guns are readily available in society, meaning that someone who is determined to get one can. Thus, banning them won't work just like banning alcohol during Prohibition didn't work. Restricting the availability of guns also won't work either for the same reason.
  2. Criminals use guns because they work -- they intimidate, they scare, and they coerce behavior from victims. Criminals, by definition, do not follow the law which means they are unlikely to buy their guns legally if registration is required.

The 2007 Virginia Tech shooting taught me many things, one of which is that a police officer is just a person with a gun and training (and, of course, legal authority to arrest, etc). Sadly, Virginia Tech-like shootings have happened often enough that they unfold in a predictable pattern:

  1. The calm of a tranquil and innocuous setting is shattered by gun fire.
  2. Some people are shot and fall to the ground injured. Others who are not run away in a big stampede.
  3. People who hear the shooting (but do not see it) assume it is something benign (e.g. firecrackers, car backfire, etc)
  4. Said people then realize it is actually gunfire.
  5. Calls to 911 are made.
  6. 911 operators struggle to understand multiple calls from often hysterical people trying to relay information of the who, what, when, and where of the shooting.
  7. Police officers are dispatched.
  8. Police officers drive to and arrive on scene.
  9. Police officers meet and discuss what they know.
  10. SWAT team may be called. If so, more delays as SWAT team members must get to the shooting scene, assemble, and discuss the facts of the situation (e.g. where victims/hostages might be, how many shooters there are, etc)
  11. Officers enter in one big group and proceed slowly throughout the building. Entry possibly hampered by booby traps or chained doors, like during Virginia Tech.
  12. Officers find victims as well as the gunman who has killed himself.

After the April 20, 1999 Columbine High shooting, CNN went through and pieced together a timeline of how events unfolded. If you read through it all, you'll notice that the first SWAT team (the Simmons team from Jefferson County, CO) didn't enter Columbine until 12:06 PM, 31 minutes after the last victim died at 11:35 AM. Gunmen Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris shot themselves at 12:08 PM.

My recollection was that many students died in the library. The first SWAT team (the Williams team from Jefferson County) didn't get to the library until 3:22 PM -- almost 4 hours after the last victim died.

Carthage, North Carolina nursing home shooting (March 29, 2009)
Contrast the Columbine response with this one. On March 29, 2009, disgruntled painter Robert Stewart used a shotgun to shoot up a nursing home in Carthage, NC where his ex-wife worked. Stewart kills 7 residents and 1 nurse before being shot himself. 

This time, instead of waiting for the police to get called, respond, and deploy, the police used what I think is called Active Shooter Protocol -- essentially, it means the first officer who arrives goes in without waiting for other officers. The same or a very similar technique was used by Officer Kimberly Munley during the November 5, 2009, shooting at Fort Hood, Texas that killed 13.

In the North Carolina case, Carthage police officer Justin Garner, age 25, went in alone. In the ensuing gunfire, Garner was shot 3 times in the leg, but managed to return fire and shoot Stewart once in the chest. Being a coward like all gunmen, Stewart gave up.

Conclusion:
With all that in mind, it seems to me that the best way to protect people is to end a dangerous situation (like a Columbine or Virginia Tech) as quickly as possible. To do so, you need two things -- a gun and training on how to use it. Neither of those technically require the police.

 

With that, here is the Craigslist posting that inspired this train of thought:

What you have to believe in order to support gun control.

  1. That guns are the real cause of crime, but we will blame and jail the owner of said gun for the crime, even if the owner wasn't the person involved.
  2. That a mugger will kill you in the half-second it takes to draw from the holster, but won't harm you while you dial 911 on your cell phone, talk to the dispatcher and wait half an hour for the cops to arrive.
  3. That gun control works, which is why there are no illegal weapons in Northern Ireland or Beirut.
  4. That the Second Amendment only applies to flintlocks, just as the First Amendment only applies to quills and lead type.
  5. That the proper response to an attack is to call the police, but only unarmed police, because "Violence never settles anything."
  6. That it's wrong to make snide, sexist comments about women, unless the comments are about women who own guns.
  7. That a gun with an 11 round magazine is dangerous, but a gun with fifteen 10 round magazines is much safer.
  8. That a hijacker could easily take a gun away from a pilot, but the hundreds of passengers aboard would then be unable to take the gun away from the hijacker.
  9. That if there'd been a gun aboard American Airlines Flight 11, someone could have been hurt.
  10. That rapists prefer to attack armed women so they can take the guns and use them against the victims.
  11. That 1 firearm owner in 10,000 will commit an act of violence in his or her lifetime, and this is far more frightening than the 25% of drivers who will cause a serious or fatal accident.
  12. That you should rely on police in lieu of your gun, just as you should rely on a dentist in lieu of your toothbrush.
  13. That car keys, umbrellas and hairspray are good tools for self-defense, despite the fact that police continue to carry guns.
  14. That Washington DC's low murder rate of 80.6 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, but Arlington, Virginia's high murder rate of 1.6 per 100,000 is attributable to the lack of gun control.
  15. That the depressed and emotionally disturbed should not be allowed to own guns that shoot bullets with 250 ft-lbs of energy, but should be allowed to own 4000 lb cars with 1,136,000 ft-lbs of energy(at 65 mph).
  16. That "assault weapons" are "very powerful" but big game hunters oddly prefer .30-06s and .375 H&Hs.
  17. That we should outlaw bullet proof vests so criminals can't use them, and private citizens should be then proud to be killed in the crossfire, knowing they are doing their part for society.
  18. That among the hundreds of documented cases against anti-gun freaks we note that: the press secretary of Handgun Control was arrested in DC for discharging an illegal handgun, a ranking regional officer of the Million Moron March was convicted of felony assault, and other Million Morons in Colorado have been arrested for attacking firearm dealers and activists, but "gun nuts" are "obsessed with violence."
  19. That the laws against specifically named weapons have been found unconstitutional, that the laws against "types" of weapons have been considered vague, that the laws against cosmetic features are easy to comply with and still produce the identical mechanism, and that laws against particular mechanisms are unconstitutional is an indication of the "obsessiveness" of firearms enthusiasts to do what they enjoy doing, against the wishes of the narrow minded prudes who wish to stop them, and not an indication of the obsessiveness of the ignorant paranoids who fear them.
  20. That NASA, the military, physiologists, anatomists and trainers all agree and Olympic scores confirm that men on average have tremendously more upper body strength than women, but women should try to defend themselves with martial arts and not a gun.
  21. That it's terrible when police officers plant weapons on a suspect to enable them to make an arrest, but we should have tougher laws against weapons and trust the police not to abuse them in this way.
  22. That police arriving at 80mph are a better way to stop criminals than bullets arriving at 800mph.
  23. That people buy guns as "substitute penises," because they know that only people with small penises ever get attacked by criminals.
  24. That Hitler and Stalin didn't disarm citizens, only Jews, Gypsies, gays, unionists and other "undesirables." (Yes, a liberal member of the MMM actually said this in the Washington Post.)
  25. That to properly understand Nazi gun control, one must consider the "legitimate fears" they had of the Jewish population. (This was another self-proclaimed liberal. I'm beginning to wonder.)
  26. That families with children should not be allowed to own guns for safety reasons, just as they aren't allowed to own dogs, power tools, or toxic chemicals.
  27. That it's wrong to destroy someone's life over an administrative crime by jailing them and impoverishing their family, unless that crime is to own a gun.
  28. That a law that allows someone to keep doing "X" that has been legal for years, in the face of another, badly written law that says they can't do "Y", is a "loophole."
  29. That it's wrong to politicize that the World Trade Center attackers didn't need guns to hijack a plane, but okay to politicize that the Columbine killers bought guns…illegally.
  30. That when someone dies because they couldn't get a drug the government won't approve, it's tragic, but when someone dies because they couldn't defend themselves with a gun the government won't approve, that's just life.
  31. That a criminal is somehow more of a threat to a cop than to a regular person, so police need guns and regular citizens don't.
  32. That the "Reasonable" uses for guns are hunting and target shooting, but not self-defense. In other words, it's acceptable to use them as toys but not as lifesaving devices.
  33. That .50 caliber rifles are both "very rare" and "selling like hotcakes."
  34. That the fact that .50 caliber rifles are very rare justifies banning them, just as the rarity of Lamborghinis and other high-performance cars justifies banning them.
  35. That one has the moral obligation to make a citizen's arrest when one sees a felony in progress, and that it should be accomplished by yelling at the perpetrator, "Stop! Or I'll yell 'stop' again!" rather than by drawing a weapon.
  36. That intelligent people should support gun control because they realize they are too stupid to be trusted with guns.
  37. That a gun is merely an inadequate substitute for a penis, so when attacked by a mugger one should pull out a…
  38. That a gun is a symbolic penis…what this has to do with defending one's life I have no idea. It simply serves to prove that anti-defense psychiatrists clearly have Freudian issues that THEY need to address.
  39. That reasonable licensing fees will stop casual ownership of guns, but anyone who would jump through hoops to own a gun is obsessive.
  40. That outlawing the carrying of guns will stop people from doing so, just as lowering the speed limit stops reckless driving.
  41. That we should deal with the problem of criminals using illegal weapons by taking lawful weapons away from honest people.
  42. That we should ban guns-if it saves even one life, it's worth it, just as we should ban assemblies where people might be trampled to death-if it saves just one life, it's worth it, and we should ban speech by groups who offend public order-if it saves just one life, it's worth it, and we should ban unhealthy foods-if it saves just one life, it's worth it, and…
  43. That a punk wakes up one morning, and thinks, "Gee, instead of robbing, raping, sodomizing and killing a young woman, why don't I turn my $400 gun in for $20 and a pizza and go work at McDonald's?"
  44. That the more helpless you are, the safer you are from criminals.
  45. That you should give a mugger your wallet, because he doesn't really want to shoot you and he'll let you go, but that you should give him your wallet, because he'll shoot you if you don't.
  46. That despite all the outrage about Corporate America's cavalier treatment of employees, Domino's Pizza's demand that employees be unarmed is an altruistic effort to stop them from hurting themselves, and not a calculated financial bid to avoid having a lawsuit filed by a dead robber's family.
  47. That one can sue a store for having a slick floor, falling ceilings, and sharp corners, but if they refuse to let you bring a gun in and you get shot by a criminal, they aren't liable for enforcing that rule with others.
  48. That there is no right of self defense, and the police are not legally obligated to respond to my cries for help when disarmed, but you can sue them if they take too long to get to a traffic accident.
  49. That assault rifles are far too powerful to hunt deer and elk, and too dangerous for private citizens to own, but are too impotent for modern warfare, too weak to reliably kill soldiers, and have no place in the concept of a citizen reserve.
  50. That there's no incongruity in claiming the preferred weapon of a drug dealer is a $25 .22 caliber pocket pistol, and claiming the preferred weapon of a drug dealer is a $2000 machinegun in the same piece of propaganda.
  51. That any cheap weapon is a "Saturday night special," and any expensive weapon is an "assault weapon."
  52. That "Cops" and other shows are edited to show the boring encounters with traffic stops and the occasional drunken fool with a revolver in his pocket, and never show the millions of cases where the cops are gunned down in droves by machinegun toting drug dealers.
  53. That "NYPD Blue" and "Miami Vice" are documentaries.
  54. That an intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .44 Magnum will get angry over your retaliation and kill you.
  55. That firearms in the hands of private citizens are the gravest threat to world peace, and China, Pakistan and Korea can be trusted with nuclear weapons.
  56. That Charlton Heston as president of the NRA is a shill who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.
  57. That ordinary people, in the presence of guns, turn into slaughtering butchers, and revert to normal when the weapon is removed.
  58. That someone who fails to clear his weapon, fails to point it in a safe direction, pulls the trigger without checking the chamber, and blows his foot off is an example of how even a "trained professional" can be a "victim" of a diabolical gun, but people in the military who clean weapons millions of times a year without getting hurt are "dumb grunts."
  59. That the New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns, just as Guns and Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.
  60. That one should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a neurosurgeon for spinal paralysis, a computer programmer for Y2K problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.
  61. That the best thing our kids can do to bullies and drug dealers is "just say no," and fight back, and the best thing we can do to bullies and drug dealers is to give them $50 and wait for them to go away.
  62. That it's outrageous that the Milwaukee police took 45 minutes to respond to reports of Jeffrey Dahmer's last victim running around naked in the cold, then returned him to his attacker without checking ID, but the best thing a citizen can do in an emergency is dial 911.
  63. That the "right of the people peaceably to assemble," the "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "the enumeration herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people," refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the states.
  64. That the 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1791, allows the states to have a National Guard, created by act of Congress in 1916.
  65. That the National Guard, paid by the federal government, occupying property leased to the federal government, using weapons owned by the federal government, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a state agency.
  66. That private citizens can't have handguns, because they serve no militia purpose, even though the military has hundreds of thousands of them, and private citizens can't have assault rifles, because they are military weapons.
  67. That it is reasonable for California to have a minimum 2 year sentence for possessing but not using an assault rifle, and reasonable for California to have a 6 month minimum sentence for raping a female police officer.
  68. That it is reasonable to jail people for carrying but not using guns, but outrageous to jail people for possessing marijuana.
  69. That minimum sentences violate civil rights, unless it's for possessing a gun.
  70. That door-to-door searches for drugs are a gross violation of civil rights and a sign of Fascism, but door-to-door searches for guns are a reasonable solution to the "gun problem."
  71. That the first amendment absolutely allows child pornography and threats to kill cops, but doesn't apply to manuals on gun repair.
  72. That a woman in a microskirt, perfume and a Wonderbra, without underwear, is a helpless victim, but someone getting paid $6 an hour to deliver the cash from a fast food place to the bank at the same time every night is, "asking for it." And you won't allow either of them to carry a gun.
  73. That Illinois' law that allows almost any government official from Governor to dogcatcher to carry a gun is reasonable, and the law that prohibits any private citizen, even one with 50 death threats on file and a million dollar jewelry business from carrying a gun is reasonable. And it isn't a sign of police stateism.
  74. That the 80 religious kooks in Waco were a threat to American security, but snipers killing them as they left the building, machinegunning children, hiding the video evidence, possibly torching the building on purpose, and having no case to present in federal court is good law enforcement. And it isn't a sign of police stateism.
  75. That free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self defense only justifies bare hands.
  76. That with the above, a 90 LB woman attacked by a 300 LB rapist and his 300 LB buddy, has the "right" to kill them in self defense, provided she uses her bare hands.
  77. That there's nothing in the Constitution that specifically prohibits banning certain guns, but there is something in the Constitution that specifically prohibits banning certain sex acts.
  78. That gun safety courses in school only encourage kids to commit violence, but sex education in school doesn't encourage kids to have sex.
  79. That a criminal will take a gun away from you and use it against you, so conversely, the best thing to do when threatened is to take the criminal's gun away from him and us it against him.
  80. That the ready availability of guns today, with only a few government forms, waiting periods, checks, infringements, ID, and fingerprinting, is responsible for all the school shootings, compared to the lack of school shootings in the 1950's and 1960's, which was caused by the awkward availability of guns at any hardware store, gas station, and by mail order.
  81. That we must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time, but anyone who owns a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.
  82. That there is too much explicit violence featuring guns on TV, but that cities can sue gun manufacturers because people aren't aware of the dangers involved with guns.
  83. That the gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, and the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.
  84. That the crime rate in America is decreasing because of gun control, but the increase in crime requires more gun control.
  85. That 100 years after its founding, the NRA got into the politics of guns from purely selfish motives, and 100 years after the Emancipation Proclamation, the black civil rights movement was founded from purely noble motives.
  86. That statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control, and statistics that show increasing murder rates after gun control is legislated are "just statistics."
  87. That we don't need guns against an oppressive government, because the Constitution has internal safeguards, so we should ban and seize all guns, therefore violating the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 9th Amendments of that Constitution, and won't thereby become an oppressive government.
  88. That guns are an ineffective means of self defense for rational adults, but in the hands of an ignorant criminal become a threat to the fabric of society.
  89. That guns are so complex to use that special training is necessary to use them properly, but so simple to use that they make murder easy.
  90. That guns contribute to high death rates and should be banned, but tobacco and alcohol are okay.
  91. That guns cause crime, which is why there has never been a mass slaying at a gun show.
  92. That guns cause crime, just like matches cause arson.
  93. That guns cause crime, just like women cause prostitution.
  94. That guns cause crime, just like men cause rape.
  95. That guns aren't necessary to national defense, which is why the US Army only has 3 million of them.
  96. That banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, and Chicago cops need guns against armed criminals.
  97. That women are just as intelligent and capable as men, but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen."
  98. That women are just as intelligent and capable as men, but gunmaker's advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."
  99. That a handgun, with up to 4 switches and controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile which only has 20.
  100. That handguns are useful only for murder, which is why the police and military define them as defensive weapons.
  101. That neighbors who carry guns against the occasional lunatic are paranoid, because of the perfectly justifiable fear that every single one of them is waiting to turn into a lunatic.
  102. That a majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population used to support owning slaves.
  103. That one should ignore as idiots politicians who confuse Wicca with Satanism and exaggerate the gay community as a threat to society, but listen sagely to politicians who can refer to a self-loading small arm as a "weapon of mass destruction" and an "assault weapon."
  104. That there is no absolute right to a weapon, documented historically because the British government used to prohibit Catholics from owning guns. And that wasn't a sign of religious bigotry. (Note: the British Constitution actually RESTORED to Protestants the right to own arms, which Catholic James II denied them)
  105. That rifles with pistol grips are assault weapons, just like vehicles with racing stripes are sports cars.
  106. That you don't need a gun against invaders, because the government will know in plenty of time to issue you whatever weapons you need.
  107. That Massachusetts is safer with bans on guns, which is why Teddy Kennedy has machinegun-toting guards.
  108. That most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by, because they can be trusted.
  109. That a woman raped and strangled with her panties is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.
  110. That the "Right to keep and bear arms" refers to armorial badges and coats of arms, not to weapons. (Potomac-inc.org)
  111. That guns should be banned because of the danger involved, and live reporting from the battlefield, which can keep the enemy informed of troop deployments, getting thousands of troops killed and perhaps losing a war, is a protected act that CANNOT be compromised on.
  112. That the right of explicit teenage pornographic websites to exist cannot be questioned because it is a constitutionally protected extension of the Bill of Rights, but the claim that handguns are for self-defense is merely an excuse, and not really protected by the Bill of Rights.
  113. That the ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, but the NRA is bad because it defends other parts of the Constitution.
  114. That a house with a gun is three times as likely to have a murder, just like a house with insulin is three times as likely to have a diabetic.
  115. That police operate in groups with backup, which is why they need larger capacity magazines than civilians, who must face criminals alone, and therefore need less ammunition.
  116. That people who own guns out of a fear of crime are paranoid, but people who don't want other people to own guns in case it causes them to commit crimes are rational.
  117. That guns cause the high suicide rate in the US, even though Japan's rate is almost three times higher.
  118. That we should ban gun stores near schools, because of all the 10 year olds who are buying guns without parents' permission.
  119. That there is a statue called "Armed Freedom" in the Capitol, but that that is irrelevant to the intent of our ancestors.
  120. That we should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.
  121. That guns have no legitimate use, but alcohol does, which is why we issue cops guns instead of beer.
  122. That police and soldiers are the dregs of society who were unfit to get any real job, which perfectly qualifies them with the high moral standards and keen intellects to handle these complicated tools and be our guardians.
  123. That it's acceptable to arm a courier at $6 an hour to shoot criminals for stealing bank deposits, but unacceptable for a college-educated business owner to do it himself.
  124. That a registration plan will reduce crime, because criminals will register their guns despite the Supreme Court decision Haynes v. U.S. (309 U.S. 85, 1968) that registration violates self-incrimination.
  125. That it's reasonable to require proof of a criminal act before an order of protection can be issued, but reasonable to assume anyone with a gun will commit a criminal act, so they should be subject to prior restraint.
  126. That teaching abstinence exclusively rather than use of condoms is doomed to fail, but encouraging absolute bans on guns rather than education in safe use is the only acceptable method of reducing crime.
  127. That it is outrageous that civilians have rifles that were designed for the military for their own self defense, but perfectly okay to have polluting, potentially unstable, heavy vehicles that were designed for the military simply as status symbols.
  128. That guns are the gravest threat to society because 83,000,000 gun owners didn't commit a crime yesterday.
  129. That it is essential to incorporate locks and sensors into guns to make them safer and that only a criminal would not support this, but cops and federal agents would be exempt for safety reasons because locks are unreliable and hinder access.
  130. That a bank guard can protect money with a gun, but you cannot protect your children with one.
  131. That all gun dealers sell illegal weapons, just like all black people sell drugs.
  132. That crime is higher in urban areas with less guns, and we must continue to disarm the minorities in these areas because of the risk of crime, and that isn't bigotry.
  133. That an underpaid, overworked bodyguard should be glad to throw himself in front of a bullet for you.
  134. That your safety is someone else's responsibility, but they have no right to tell you how to live your life.
  135. That guns are useless against tyranny, because an armed populace of 160 million cannot defeat an army of 2 million mixed in among it.
  136. That if the above is true, we should not be terrified of the concept of that government holding control of our lives and freedom at its whim.
  137. That the piecemeal destruction of the right to keep and bear arms makes the right useless, and therefore justifies destroying it further.
  138. That one should be more afraid of one's spouse blowing a gasket and shooting the children, than of those children being run over by a hormone-driven teenager in a car.
  139. "It can't happen here."
  140. That people are too stupid to handle guns, but are intelligent enough to vote.
  141. That guns are not an effective means of self-defense, which is why police carry them.
  142. That one can "study" the "gun issue," but not know the difference between an assault rifle and a battle rifle.
  143. That the NRA, with over 4 million members, is "out of touch" with America, and HCI, with 50 thousand members, is a "mandate from the people."
  144. That a baseball bat is good protection against a burglar, provided his gun fires baseballs.
  145. That to judge a group by secondhand news and hearsay is bigotry, unless that group is the NRA.
  146. That the National Defense Act of 1916 doesn't exist.
  147. That pricing products out of the reach of poor people through excessive regulation is discriminatory practice, unless that product is a gun.
  148. That manufacturers are not responsible for damages caused by their products, unless that product is a gun.
  149. That trigger locks and other devices make guns safer, which is why the police and military refuse to use them.
  150. That registration of guns will help law enforcement, because that way they won't need probable cause and a warrant to conduct a search.
  151. That registration of guns, which makes their existence a matter of public knowledge under the FOIA, isn't dangerous to owners.
  152. That registration of guns, in violation of the McClure-Volkmer Act, and as declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, is somehow still legal.
  153. That private citizens making private sales of private property is a "loophole."
  154. That the existence of weapons not banned by previous laws is a "loophole."
  155. That making it harder to get a license to sell firearms legally will reduce the number of people selling illegally.
  156. That it's safer to do nothing than resist with a gun, which is why the military wins so many wars by not fighting.
  157. That we must close shooting ranges because of the noise, but ban silencers because they are quiet.
  158. That owning a gun for self-defense indicates an intent to kill, just like owning a first aid kit indicates an intent to impersonate a physician.
  159. That guns are an "epidemic" even though we can't treat them with penicillin.
  160. That there's no right to own military weapons, which is why the Civilian Marksmanship Program at http://www.odcmp.com exists to sell military weapons to civilians under Congressional authority.
  161. That suggesting teachers be armed is an outrageous suggestion for a "civilized" society, which is why the Swiss and Israelis do it.
  162. That making it harder and harder for even cops to have guns on school property will somehow make it harder for lunatics to kill the utterly helpless students.
  163. That accidents with a product justify banning the product, even though MADD has never called for a ban on alcohol, people actively push to legalize drugs, and no one wants to ban swimming pools, so basically it's only practical items like guns we should ban and not the luxury items that are essential to human survival.
  164. That the 14th Amendment requires states to accept each other's drivers licenses, even with age or vision requirement differences, marriage licenses even with age or relationship differences or if it's a gay marriage, but somehow doesn't apply to licenses to carry weapons.
  165. That the same people who build illegal high-tech drug labs for less than $30,000 won't build illegal low-tech gun shops for less than $10,000.
  166. That people with large gun collections are dangerous, especially if they have more than two hands to shoot with.
  167. That autoloaders are "easily converted" to fully automatic fire, yet the person telling you this has no idea how it's accomplished.
  168. That banning rifles with bayonet lugs will cut down on all the drive-by bayonetings.
  169. That shooting at an intruder who smashes your door and enters with knife in hand will somehow "escalate the violence."
  170. That it's safer with less guns, which is why lunatics shoot up schools instead of gun shows or police stations.
  171. That guns cause crime, which is why there was no rape or murder in the Dark Ages.
     

Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:59:42 PM